Casting his spell: an interview with Joe Manganiello
Thu. June 28, 2012 by Gregg Shapiro
joe manganiello in "magic mike"
GS: (Gregg Shapiro) Joe, what was it about the character of Big Dick Richie that made you want to play him in "Magic Mike"?
JM: (Joe Manganiello) Besides the name [laughs]? And the legacy that would come along with the name? I read the script and it was like scene-stealing moment after scene-stealing moment, between the fireman suit, the gold body paint, the silhouette routine, the penis pump. That, and then of course, (director) Steven Soderbergh, Chan(ing Tatum), McConaughey and my drama school classmate Matt Bomer. It was a slam-dunk.
GS: The first time the audience sees you backstage, you are seated at a sewing machine, working on your costume.
JM: I'm sewing my gold thong.
GS: Was that your first time behind a sewing machine or do you have some familiarity with the equipment?
JM: Yeah, I have familiarity. We had a Home Ec class in junior high, so I knew my way around a sewing machine. But interestingly enough – I quit for 7 1/2 years – but I was a two pack a day smoker for years. I worked for Camel. So, I've got a cigarette (in the scene) and I'm actually wearing my (own) glasses. I wanted it to have this sweatshop feel. I thought it would be funny if he had put the glasses on to see the sewing machine.
GS: Out of all of Richie's various costumes – you mentioned the fireman – is there one that you liked better than the rest?
JM: The gold body paint was epic. When am I ever going to do that again? It took a good solid hour, with five people applying this makeup to every crevice. I had to be covered in gold. Once you go through all of that, I'm going to make this thing memorable.
GS: Was it itchy?
JM: No. We did three takes, I think. Steven left the music on for about five minutes. So it was me as this gold statue come to life just mauling a floor full of women, knocking tables over, jumping on things, lining them up. It was a Dionysian orgy and I rubbed up on everybody and I don't remember anyone being covered in gold paint. I think it stayed on me pretty well, which is kind of freaky to think about, actually.
GS: In the pantheon of stripper movies, to my recollection there are only two Hollywood-style flicks about male strippers that precede "Magic Mike"— 1981's "For Ladies Only" starring Gregory Harrison and 1983's "A Night In Heaven" starring Christopher Atkins. Had you seen either or both of those movies before beginning work on "Magic Mike," and if not, what was involved in your research for your role as Big Dick Richie?
JM: I had not seen them. A really good long time friend of mine was a male stripper in Dallas during the `90s at a club called La Bare. He was actually responsible for coming up with the fireman routine there. I took him out to lunch, we hung out. I had heard some of his stories before but never with the amount of interest that I had now, obviously. I bought him lunch and took notes and laughed hysterically and got a really good feel for (what he did). Plus I've worked in clubs since I was 16 years old, so I know that life, I know those people.
GS: Were you that tall at 16?
GS: So you were able to pass for older.
JM: Yeah. Seagram's hired me to be Captain Morgan for $25 an hour when I was 16. They didn't really question it. We got me a fake ID from somebody who was 10 years older just to make sure I was covered. But interestingly enough, I was actually in Chicago when I was 21. I got a job that summer working for Finlandia Vodka. We wound up here (in Chicago) promoting Finlandia during the Pride Festival. I was wearing a tuxedo and they sent me in with a tray of Finlandia vodka drinks into a bar – I don't know if it's still here – called the Manhole.
GS: It's now called Hydrate.
JM: I ended up veering right into a backroom with a metal spider-web [laughs], at 21, man! That was educational, I'll just say that.
GS: Do you feel like you learned anything about the male stripper world that you didn't know before?
JM: I think the differences and similarities between male and female strip clubs and the nature of it was fascinating and said a lot. I think the idea that men are threatening to women where women aren't threatening to men, so if women aren't threatening to men, let them do whatever they want. When you go to a female strip club, you're going to find that archetypical, serial killer man, sitting there quietly with his dollar bills, staring [laughs]. You go to the male strip club and women are screaming, grabbing, groping, backstage, under the table, in the parking lot.
GS: It seems like it's a freer atmosphere.
JM: You don't really need security because every one of the guys is their own security. It's go for it, do your thing. I think that's why a lot of the guys are into it. Where for the women that it's probably more about the money; for the guys it's more about the good time.
GS: But the money doesn't hurt.
JM: Oh, sure, but these guys aren't thinking about tomorrow. They're not putting it away, generally. It's enough to keep going, as long as there's drink and drugs. It's the Lost Boys. Also I think the costumes, presenting themselves as female fantasies, and the nature of the theatrics, it's more fun.
GS: You mentioned working with director Steven Soderbergh, which elevates "Magic Mike" above being your typical movie about strippers. What was it like to work with Steven?
JM: He's a very intuitive filmmaker. He trusts his gut. I think that what that equates to is that he's very present and in the moment as a filmmaker. It's possible because he's his own cameraman; he sees it in his head. What that allows him to do is observe what's going on in front of him and make judgment calls based upon "is what I'm seeing more interesting then maybe what we were going to shoot? If so, then maybe we should shoot that." What happens is, you get there, you have a plan, then Steven will take it in whatever direction he wants and the result is something really fresh, that has this electricity to it. You have to know the world. You have to know your character. Everything in the locker room (scene) came out of us messing around, waiting for Steven to set up the shot. He'd say, "Let's shoot that. This is great, this is funny." It just so happened that the casting was right and there was this great group of guys who played off of each other really well. It added a whole other movie within the movie that wasn't there.
GS: Mike (played by Channing Tatum) takes The Kid (Alex Pettyfer), under his wing, becoming his mentor. Have you ever had occasion to be a mentor to someone or be mentored by someone?
JM: Yes. I'm an athlete, so I had coaches from the time I was little, all the way up. Not including my father, who also taught me all kinds of stuff. From father into the hands of coaches growing up. I've had different trainers, a trainer in high school and I have a trainer now. I'm not somebody who's afraid to ask for help or seek help out. And of course acting teachers in college, people helping to guide you into this chosen profession, that I definitely still check in with. They've had me back to the school to speak and do things. And I'm involved with the alumni.
GS: You mentioned your old friend Matt (Bomer), who plays Ken in "Magic Mike," who recently came out as a gay man. Do you think that will have an impact on "Magic Mike"'s appeal to the gay community or do you think the subject matter alone will be enough to bring your and his gay fans into the theaters?
JM: I think Matt's a brilliant actor, that's what it is. Matt's one of the best-looking guys on the planet and he's one of the best actors on the planet. I think that's the draw. I certainly think this movie appeals to that demographic [laughs], regardless.
GS: Joe, what is next for you?
JM: I have to fly back to LA to finish shooting the finale of "True Blood." And then I'll shoot an independent called "Tumble Down" with Rose Byrne and Jason Sudeikis.
GS: Is it a comedy?
JM: It's kind of a slice of life that takes place in Maine, which is somewhere that I spent every summer growing up, around those people. So it will be fun to get in there and mix it up.
"Magic Mike" opens in theaters nationwide on Friday, June 29. Visit magicmikemovie.warnerbros.com for more.
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Interviewed by Gregg Shapiro. Gregg Shapiro is both a literary figure and a music and literary critic. As an entertainment journalist, his work appears on ChicagoPride.com and is syndicated nationally.